Thanks Roski, its true what you say and just like your Dad we experienced something similar. It was the sheer number of these experiences that baffled me over the years when I was grappling with my doubts about the whole Jw thing. I hung onto the idea that this was proof that God was with this religion. I have realised as I wrote before that my experiences out of the religion have been just as awesome and at times inexplicable on the surface. Dig a little deeper and a logical explanation surfaces, usually connected to general kindness in people.
chicken little
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Australian Convention Pioneer family Experience - We found our vegetables in the gutter..why do they wanna be Martyrs?
by Witness 007 ina couple years ago district convention - a pioneer family with two kids explained how they had ran out of funds and had no dinner...as they turned the corner out witnessing they saw a vegetable truck had spilled some produce in the gutter and so "jehovah provided in our time of need..." i felt like yelling get a job you bum stop starving!!
not encouraging.
this week an elder with pnemonia discharges himself from hospital, promising to remain home...so he can go out preaching!
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so what have i missed???
by oompa inbeen very self absorbed for awhilel....shame on me!!
but i called that crazy canadian chick the other day....god i love her voice and personality...and if you ever get to call or see mouthy...go for it!!!
!...she has more life in her now than i ever will.
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chicken little
So good to see you are getting back on your feet, hope you keep on healing and feeling better each day.
Love Chicken little
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Australian Convention Pioneer family Experience - We found our vegetables in the gutter..why do they wanna be Martyrs?
by Witness 007 ina couple years ago district convention - a pioneer family with two kids explained how they had ran out of funds and had no dinner...as they turned the corner out witnessing they saw a vegetable truck had spilled some produce in the gutter and so "jehovah provided in our time of need..." i felt like yelling get a job you bum stop starving!!
not encouraging.
this week an elder with pnemonia discharges himself from hospital, promising to remain home...so he can go out preaching!
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chicken little
I have to write in on this one as I have had (sorry to say), similar experiences and have related them at the assemblies. At the time my husband and I were pioneering on a bare subsistance wage cleaning at all hours of the night. We often had little food and had an experience similar to the australian one. We were walking home from work in the night and came across a ditch were a bread lorry had lost its load out of the back.
We collected as many wrapped loaves as we could and were very grateful for the bread from heaven as we called it. It was not stealing as no company would use packages that had been on the earth.
We had many other experiences that at the time we gave God the glory for. Our tiny old caravan fridge broke down and we had no money for another one, one service the next day at a return visit we see a fridge in our visits hallway, we ask him if he has just got a new one, he says yes but he wants to get rid of the old one that is working well. We of course were overjoyed and yes we gave thanks to Jehovah. Actually our visit was a very kind man and as we have found out since leaving Jws there are lots and lots of people that do very kind things when you are in need.
I view the way in which we were used by the society in giving our experiences as assemblies, much the same as the revivalist churches in the last century. They needed testamonies of God's power, healing etc to give them credibility, the society does the same with our experiences. "See God is blessing you in pioneering, see what wonderful things happen when you serve God", I truly believed this and it was one of the points that held me in longer than I wanted because we really did have unusual experiences. I now see they were not so unusual at all, since I have left I have had just as many "strange" coincidences that have brought good things into my life to help others.
I work for the Red Cross with women who are beaten, whenever I have had to find furniture for them when they move to a new place; I can be sure that I will find just what I need within days, either through Facebook, at work in the rubbish containers (bookcases, chairs etc) or through kind friends that just want to help. So now when I meet the Jws I tell them how kind people are generally and how much I am inspired by their kindness. My dear friend told me that good things tend to happen to people who put themselves out for others, maybe that sounds a cliche but I think there is truth in that saying.
So yes I did take part in the boasting for God sessions, but now I am boasting for humanity, people are great!
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Australian Convention Pioneer family Experience - We found our vegetables in the gutter..why do they wanna be Martyrs?
by Witness 007 ina couple years ago district convention - a pioneer family with two kids explained how they had ran out of funds and had no dinner...as they turned the corner out witnessing they saw a vegetable truck had spilled some produce in the gutter and so "jehovah provided in our time of need..." i felt like yelling get a job you bum stop starving!!
not encouraging.
this week an elder with pnemonia discharges himself from hospital, promising to remain home...so he can go out preaching!
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chicken little
I have to write in on this one as I have had (sorry to say), similar experiences and have related them at the assemblies. At the time my husband and I were pioneering on a bare subsistance wage cleaning at all hours of the night. We often had little food and had an experience similar to the australian one. We were walking home from work in the night and came across a ditch were a bread lorry had lost its load out of the back.
We collected as many wrapped loaves as we could and were very grateful for the bread from heaven as we called it. It was not stealing as no company would use packages that had been on the earth.
We had many other experiences that at the time we gave God the glory for. Our tiny old caravan fridge broke down and we had no money for another one, one service the next day at a return visit we see a fridge in our visits hallway, we ask him if he has just got a new one, he says yes but he wants to get rid of the old one that is working well. We of course were overjoyed and yes we gave thanks to Jehovah. Actually our visit was a very kind man and as we have found out since leaving Jws there are lots and lots of people that do very kind things when you are in need.
I view the way in which we were used by the society in giving our experiences as assemblies, much the same as the revivalist churches in the last century. They needed testamonies of God's power, healing etc to give them credibility, the society does the same with our experiences. "See God is blessing you in pioneering, see what wonderful things happen when you serve God", I truly believed this and it was one of the points that held me in longer than I wanted because we really did have unusual experiences. I now see they were not so unusual at all, since I have left I have had just as many "strange" coincidences that have brought good things into my life to help others.
I work for the Red Cross with women who are beaten, whenever I have had to find furniture for them when they move to a new place; I can be sure that I will find just what I need within days, either through Facebook, at work in the rubbish containers (bookcases, chairs etc) or through kind friends that just want to help. So now when I meet the Jws I tell them how kind people are generally and how much I am inspired by their kindness. My dear friend told me that good things tend to happen to people who put themselves out for others, maybe that sounds a cliche but I think there is truth in that saying.
So yes I did take part in the boasting for God sessions, but now I am boasting for humanity, people are great!
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I'm lost
by Newborn ini feel confused, empty, alone, sad, sensitive, hurt and so on.
more and more it seems.... will i ever find my place, my home and be content and happy?
sometimes it feels impossible.
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chicken little
Hej Newborn,
Someone wise said "this too will pass", and hard as it seems at the moment you will come through this time. Remember to learn to love yourself before you jump into finding someone to love you, it sounds odd but the hardest love to accept is to love oneself. Best wishes for this New Year.
Chicken little
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Circuit Assembly Cancelled - AGAIN
by St George of England init should have been our ca tomorrow and sunday but it has been cancelled because of the weather.
we had a light sprinkling of snow today but it has frozen and the roads around hayes bridge are treacherous.. the ca two weeks ago was cancelled for the same reason and some of those congregations were scheduled to join us this weekend.. guess i will just have to have a lie in this weekend!.
george.
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chicken little
Haysbridge.....memories, worked there on the site for over a year, husband used to drive in after early morning cleaning to work there all day and then drive back home to work again on the evening, plus meetings and being a pioneer and elder and dad to two little ones. We must have been mad.
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Enjoying the Taste of Freedom ...
by sleepingbeauty inhi guys n girls.... i slipped under the jw radar just one year ago.
i wasn't happy going to meetings as i always felt worthless and everything i did wasnt good enough.
well having managed to miss a few meetings, i thought nothing of sneaking a look at apostate websites.
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chicken little
Well done!
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Finally dared to register
by Hoffnung infinally i registered today.
being a lurker for quite some months, i convinced myself it is time to give my own 2 pence from time to time.
i am living in europe and i am still 'in', although by now i must be counted as an inactive jw.
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chicken little
Welcome, I relate to your experience. I too could not go on field service when I no longer believed it. I told this to my friends and they just stared at me. Hope that you and your wife find peace, it takes a period of time to readjust but you will get there.
Love
Chicken little
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Flying to Orlando tomorrow, my daughter is in the hospital
by coffee_black inmy daughter is in the hospital with pneumonia, and possibly a blood clot in her lung.
they'll be testing through the night...apparently, her heart is enlarged as well.
she is scared... and if her jw father catches wind of it, he will be there trying to intefere with her treatment... he lives close by to her, so i'll be flying down in the morning....to head him off at the pass.
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chicken little
Safe journey, your daughter will be so happy to have you there, hope all goes well.
Love chicken little
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Update on Jamiebowers - not sure what to think...
by sd-7 ini just got a call from jamie this afternoon, saying she found her husband in the bathroom, not breathing.
i've not had the chance to speak to her, she left me a voice mail.
but i'm very worried.
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chicken little
So sorry to hear about your awful experience, I hope that all goes well with hubby and his recovery. I would suggest you get a crash course in CPR through your local Red Cross or fire department, it really does save lives.
Thinking of you
Hugs
Chicken little